I've had some fantastic feedback from friends and peers. It is interesting to note that fellow classmates have the better feedback as although friends can see something wrong with a page, they are not really too sure how to correct it. Classmates on the other hand can spot what is wrong which is a great help.
After feedback about my initial logo (which I knew was not fantastic) I decided to go with a simpler style camera shot and put the Site ID in there. Some people queried this, however, Krug states on page 86 of the text that a Site ID is vital. So I have decided to keep this in. This can also double as a home button for those familiar with that system.
I have decided to post below my recent converstations with class mates for reference as well as a copy of another draft of screen shot. I still have a lot to think about, but the most beneficial feedback seems to have come from Carolyn who kindly did a re-vamp of my nav for me. I will definately be taking this into consideration today as I work through another (hopefully final) version of the page. I am also going to try not to get too worried about colours as this is somethign which can be easily changed. It is the 'usabilty' aspect which I need to focus on for this topic. However, aesthetics are obviously very important.
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Message no. 1767
Author: Peta Drury
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:35pm
Hi guys,
If any of you have a moment, I'd love some feedback on my draft
storyboard (attached)... Please let me know if I've forgotten anything
major.
Just like Lin said - feel free to be harsh - I can take it :)
Thanks,
Peta
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Message no. 1770
Author: Jan Hobson
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:45am
well done Peta, layed out neatly and organised only critique I would have is about logo, I
like the camera in the bushes pic but find the name doesn't stand out also I don't really
know what a toy camera is, sounds like something for children, but I guess those that
use them will know!
Love your images of cameras in different places, posing!
Only other thing (just my thoughts) is perhaps local nav look too much like top tabs? and
it's all very green, maybe you could introduce another colour? Do you need the
words 'quick links' and 'home' stated? I like how you have set out your top banner, very
Krug, you know with site ID, search bar, tabs etc..
all looks professional I think just the logo lets it down a bit
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Message no. 1771
Author: Peta Drury
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:49am
Hi Jan,
Thanks for your feedback....
I agree with most of your points and have tried again accordingly :)
Let me try to reply to you...
only critique I would have is about logo, I
like the camera in the bushes pic but find the name doesn't stand out
also I don't really
know what a toy camera is, sounds like something for children, but I
guess those that
use them will know!
Yes; it was late... Photoshop was giving me nightmares... I've revamped
the logo now.. Please let me know what you think. As for the 'toy
camera' thing... Well... A person would at least need to know what one
was before they went looking for my site so I think I can't do much
about that...
Only other thing (just my thoughts) is perhaps local nav look too
much like top tabs?
Do you think there's a problem with this? I was going for a unified nav
type thing...
it's all very green, maybe you could introduce another colour?
I was going for the 'pop culture' type colour scheme here as this seemed
popular in my testing.. But I've toned it down a bit this time.. Any
other comments please :)
Do you need the words 'quick links' and 'home' stated?
Hmmm.. I'm trying to make people not 'think'.... Let me re-think this one :)
Here is another attempt... Feel free to throw rocks :)
P
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Message no. 1772
Author: Suzanne Howarth
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:10am
I think it looks great, and just to be annoying I really preferred all
the green in your first example. Using the colour in the first one I
think really achieved what u were going for.
Suzanne
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Message no. 1773
Author: Jan Hobson
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:27am
I hope you don't really think I am throwing rocks :)
No I am not sure about the nav's looking similar at all, just a thought! although since you
changed banner top tabs really stand out more. I like your quirky new logo, a camera
that can think, cool, I need one of those!
still not real sure about colours, maybe it was just the shades of green used? Maybe it's
just me? maybe colour is not as important as elements standing out being findable and
usable, which all your seemed to be.
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Message no. 1774
Author: Peta Drury
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:37am
Thanks for your feedback!!
Can anyone see any other major flaws?
Hmmmmm... I'm confused on the colour scheme now...
When I get home I'll sort out a few more and we can have a vote :)
That's usability testing innit?
P
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Message no. 1775
Author: Peta Drury
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:39am
P.s - No, no Jan... I didn't think you were throwing rocks... What I was
trying to say was please be critical because that's the only way I'll
get the site looking its best... :)
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Message no. 1779
Author: Edwin Lynch
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:40pm
That's right. Criticism is what will make us all great!
Lovely strokes and encouragement will keep us going - but it's no way
forward. The former is more important - although we should curb our
default "opinion as critique".
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Message no. 1778
Author: Edwin Lynch
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:38pm
Ooooh, getting better already...
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Message no. 1777
Author: Edwin Lynch
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:36pm
Okay. IMHO and in the interests of making your design look / work better:
1. Decide which is your nav and which is subnav. I assume tabs are main
nav, but it's not dead clear. You need to give text sizes on your site
some kind of heirarchy. The biggest text is "home".
I'd use Toy Camera Photography as an h1. A beginner's guide as h4 and
tabs and quick links as h2 and h3. Really think about what's most
impotant on the page. Thinking SEO is a good way to decide as Search
Engines are really just trying to emulate human choice anyway..
Not sure you need the url on logo.
2. I love how you have photographed the Holga.
3. Is there another colour you could use - sparingly - say orange / red
(something from the other side of the wheel)
4. What will the page look like on a widescreen monitor. Is it fixed or
fluid width?
5. Might be good to use a ratation script (pity there are no
accessibility proof ones) on a series of images. In your logo position?
Somethnig taken with a Holga.
6. As with Lin's - something to tie the elements together better instead
of stark white. A faded watermark / pattern of cameras?
Just my initial (design) thoughts. Now to read others...
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Message no. 1794
Author: Keith Riley
Date: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:34am
hey Peta,
looking good... I too like the 'more green' version too... I think that
grey like black and white should not be viewed as colors... (personal rant)
I love your rounded corners... did you sneak a peak at my design
development?? LOL...hehe see my ned23 website (very similar to my
ned23A4) ...no, but really it looks great...
I agree with Edwin 'bout url on logo... bit distracting...
love the 'Where's Wally'..or 'Where's Holga' take on the images...
reminds me of the Uni, students who stole (kidnapped) the brightly
colored suburban garden gnome... then posted photos of said gnome in
front of the pyramids, and the Louvre...etc etc... he just popped up
everywhere... very funny... lot of effort tho... ummm distracted again...
I like the logo with 'thought bubble'... cant remember what the bubble
said, but... perhaps it should read, "What is a Holga?... or
not...
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Message no. 1798
Author: Peta Drury
Date: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:10am
Helloooooooooooooooo!
Thanks for ur feedback, Keith and others.
Does everyone think that I should take the URL out of the bubble and
replace it with something else?
If I used text on graphics that would show up in a search engine so
putting in "what is a holga" would be a good idea... But why would a
holga be thinking that?! hahah But you get my point...
Ta,
P
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Message no. 1802
Author: Lin Campbell
Date: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:17pm
Hey Peta :)
Great work on the storyboard -- really clean and simple. Excellent!!
You know, that's my problem, I'm always making things complicated for
myself -- your designs are always refreshing to look at darling ;)
Well done!!
Lin
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Message no. 1807
Author: Meryl Thomas
Date: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:51pm
Hi Peta,
very impressive! I like the clear layout and good use of white space.
The quick links are great for us web-page scanners who want to get to
somewhere specific fast.
I wasn't too sure about having a division under the tab and thought that
it cut the tab off from the active page (see Krug's tabs on p.82 and my
attached fiddle).
I'm glad you have a site-map: I like sites with site-maps because it
gives me a good overview of what is on offer. Are you going to have an
'about us' page or do you only need the small about section on the home
page?
I like the green theme it has a Fujicolor feel about it.... did you
choose green because of the colour of the film boxes? regardless, Krug
says not get too excited about colour comments (p.151).
What sort of things are you going to include on the help page? The help page
really has me intrigued!
cheers,
Meryl
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Message no. 1812
Author: Lin Campbell
Date: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:56pm
Lady Meryl... :)
What you have done has put heaps more emphasis on the main navigation,
in my opinion!!
Lucky to have you in class!! ;)
Cheers.
Lin
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Message no. 1817
Author: Meryl Thomas
Date: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:03am
thank you Lin for your encouragement :)
After studying Krug's analysis of the Amazonian tab system I can see
they do give me a far better sense of where I am.
But having said that I hesitated to fiddle with Peta's use of colours on
the tabs because they gave the site good aesthetic colour balance and I
think I mucked that up when I changed the tab colour. Whilst I changed
the header bar to be the same colour as the footer to compensate for the
change I still think I drastically shifted the overall colour balance on
the page. My suggestion might have improved my own location awareness
but it might not look right for the entire page.... colour is such a
tricky thing!
cheers,
Meryl
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Message no. 1823
Author: Peta Drury
Date: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:29am
Hi Meryl,
Thank you so much for your very useful feedback!!!
Re; the top nav... I was trying hard to stick to the book (see page 84
of Krug) i.e. I'm pretty sure the whole amazone page is not green to
match the tabs... So hmmm... And then again on pg 87 you can see the
similar nav style I was going for..
But the one you have shown does look much slicker and like tabs.
And what you say about colours is so true... It is so easy to change
colours of site, but much harder to change nav once in place so I think
I'll put my emphasis back on 'usability' as that is what this course is
about rather than visual aesthetics (also obviously important).
Going to have another fiddle after leaving it for a day and see what I
can come up with :)
Thanks again,
Peta
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Message no. 1815
Author: Carolyn McIlvenny
Date: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:14pm
What about introducing the contrast color as a border on some of the boxes, would make
them pop more on the page.
I was thinking about your font sizes but then read on and Edwin got to that one first so
will not go there again.
I like the layout but if you want the tabs to look more like the primary nav then perhaps
they need to extend across the whole page, would wreck your nice header ...
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Message no. 1822
Author: Kathryn Thompson
Date: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:13am
Looks good to me.
Can't see anything that I would change.
K
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